相应部第 42 相应（Sujato 英译）第 12 阅读页 · SN42.12 · With Rāsiya · 1/2

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With RāsiyaWith RāsiyaThen Rāsiya the chief went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him:Then Rāsiya the chief went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him:“Sir, I have heard this: ‘The ascetic Gotama criticizes all forms of mortification. He categorically condemns and denounces those fervent mortifiers who live rough.’“Sir, I have heard this: ‘The ascetic Gotama criticizes all forms of mortification. He categorically condemns and denounces those fervent mortifiers who live rough.’

I trust those who say this repeat what the Buddha has said, and do not misrepresent him with an untruth? Is their explanation in line with the teaching? Are there any legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism?”I trust those who say this repeat what the Buddha has said, and do not misrepresent him with an untruth? Is their explanation in line with the teaching? Are there any legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism?”“Chief, those who say this do not repeat what I have said. They misrepresent me with what is false, hollow, and untrue.“Chief, those who say this do not repeat what I have said. They misrepresent me with what is false, hollow, and untrue.These two extremes should not be cultivated by one gone forth.These two extremes should not be cultivated by one gone forth.

Indulgence in sensual pleasures, which is low, crude, ordinary, ignoble, and pointless. And indulgence in self-mortification, which is painful, ignoble, and pointless.Indulgence in sensual pleasures, which is low, crude, ordinary, ignoble, and pointless. And indulgence in self-mortification, which is painful, ignoble, and pointless.Avoiding these two extremes, the Realized One understood the middle way of practice, which gives vision and knowledge, and leads to peace, direct knowledge, awakening, and extinguishment.Avoiding these two extremes, the Realized One understood the middle way of practice, which gives vision and knowledge, and leads to peace, direct knowledge, awakening, and extinguishment.And what is that middle way of practice?And what is that middle way of practice?

It is simply this noble eightfold path, that is:It is simply this noble eightfold path, that is:right view, right purpose, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right immersion.right view, right purpose, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right immersion.This, chief, is the middle way of practice that was understood by the Realized One, which gives vision and knowledge, and leads to peace, direct knowledge, awakening, and extinguishment.This, chief, is the middle way of practice that was understood by the Realized One, which gives vision and knowledge, and leads to peace, direct knowledge, awakening, and extinguishment.

There are these three pleasure seekers in the world.There are these three pleasure seekers in the world.What three?What three?Take a pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.Take a pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.

Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means.They make themselves happy and pleased, but don’t share it and make merit.They make themselves happy and pleased, but don’t share it and make merit.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means.

They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.

Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive.

They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.

Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.They make themselves happy and pleased, but don’t share it and make merit.They make themselves happy and pleased, but don’t share it and make merit.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.

They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.They enjoy that wealth tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape.They enjoy that wealth tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.Next, a pleasure seeker seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means.

They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.They make themselves happy and pleased, and they share it and make merit.And they enjoy that wealth untied, uninfatuated, unattached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape.And they enjoy that wealth untied, uninfatuated, unattached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.

They may be criticized on three grounds.They may be criticized on three grounds.What three?What three?They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.

They don’t make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the third ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the third ground for criticism.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on these three grounds.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on these three grounds.

Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, but doesn’t share it and make merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, but doesn’t share it and make merit.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on two grounds, and praised on one.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on two grounds, and praised on one.What are the two grounds for criticism?What are the two grounds for criticism?

They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the second ground for criticism.What is the one ground for praise?What is the one ground for praise?

They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the one ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the one ground for praise.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on these two grounds, and praised on this one.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on these two grounds, and praised on this one.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using illegitimate, coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit.

This pleasure seeker may be criticized on one ground, and praised on two.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on one ground, and praised on two.What is the one ground for criticism?What is the one ground for criticism?They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the one ground for criticism.They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the one ground for criticism.

What are the two grounds for praise?What are the two grounds for praise?They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the first ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the first ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the second ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the second ground for praise.

This pleasure seeker may be criticized on this one ground, and praised on these two.This pleasure seeker may be criticized on this one ground, and praised on these two.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive, and who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive, and who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.They may be praised on one ground, and criticized on three.They may be praised on one ground, and criticized on three.

What is the one ground for praise?What is the one ground for praise?They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the one ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the one ground for praise.What are the three grounds for criticism?What are the three grounds for criticism?

They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the third ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the third ground for criticism.

This pleasure seeker may be praised on this one ground, and criticized on these three.This pleasure seeker may be praised on this one ground, and criticized on these three.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive, and makes themselves happy and pleased, but doesn’t share it and make merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive, and makes themselves happy and pleased, but doesn’t share it and make merit.They may be praised on two grounds, and criticized on two.They may be praised on two grounds, and criticized on two.

What are the two grounds for praise?What are the two grounds for praise?They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.

What are the two grounds for criticism?What are the two grounds for criticism?They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the first ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the second ground for criticism.

This pleasure seeker may be praised on these two grounds, and criticized on these two.This pleasure seeker may be praised on these two grounds, and criticized on these two.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using means both legitimate and illegitimate, and coercive and non-coercive, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit.They may be praised on three grounds, and criticized on one.They may be praised on three grounds, and criticized on one.

What are the three grounds for praise?What are the three grounds for praise?They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.

They share it and make merit. This is the third ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the third ground for praise.What is the one ground for criticism?What is the one ground for criticism?They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the one ground for criticism.They seek wealth using illegitimate, coercive means. This is the one ground for criticism.

This pleasure seeker may be praised on these three grounds, and criticized on this one.This pleasure seeker may be praised on these three grounds, and criticized on this one.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, but who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, but who doesn’t make themselves happy and pleased, or share it and make merit.They may be praised on one ground, and criticized on two.They may be praised on one ground, and criticized on two.

What is the one ground for praise?What is the one ground for praise?They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the one ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the one ground for praise.What are the two grounds for criticism?What are the two grounds for criticism?

They don’t make themselves happy and pleased. This is the first ground for criticism.They don’t make themselves happy and pleased. This is the first ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the second ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the second ground for criticism.This pleasure seeker may be praised on this one ground, and criticized on these two.This pleasure seeker may be praised on this one ground, and criticized on these two.

Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, but doesn’t share it and make merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, but doesn’t share it and make merit.This pleasure seeker may be praised on two grounds, and criticized on one.This pleasure seeker may be praised on two grounds, and criticized on one.What are the two grounds for praise?What are the two grounds for praise?

They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.What is the one ground for criticism?What is the one ground for criticism?

They don’t share it and make merit. This is the one ground for criticism.They don’t share it and make merit. This is the one ground for criticism.This pleasure seeker may be praised on these two grounds, and criticized on this one.This pleasure seeker may be praised on these two grounds, and criticized on this one.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit. But they enjoy that wealth tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit. But they enjoy that wealth tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape.

They may be praised on three grounds and criticized on one.They may be praised on three grounds and criticized on one.What are the three grounds for praise?What are the three grounds for praise?They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.

They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the third ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the third ground for praise.What is the one ground for criticism?What is the one ground for criticism?

They enjoy that wealth tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape. This is the one ground for criticism.They enjoy that wealth tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape. This is the one ground for criticism.This pleasure seeker may be praised on these three grounds, and criticized on this one.This pleasure seeker may be praised on these three grounds, and criticized on this one.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit.Now, consider the pleasure seeker who seeks wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means, and who makes themselves happy and pleased, and shares it and makes merit.

And they enjoy that wealth untied, uninfatuated, unattached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape.And they enjoy that wealth untied, uninfatuated, unattached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape.This pleasure seeker may be praised on four grounds.This pleasure seeker may be praised on four grounds.What are the four grounds for praise?What are the four grounds for praise?

They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They seek wealth using legitimate, non-coercive means. This is the first ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They make themselves happy and pleased. This is the second ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the third ground for praise.They share it and make merit. This is the third ground for praise.

They enjoy that wealth untied, uninfatuated, unattached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape. This is the fourth ground for praise.They enjoy that wealth untied, uninfatuated, unattached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape. This is the fourth ground for praise.