相应部第 22 相应（Sujato 英译）第 85 阅读页 · SN22.84 · With Tissa

Linked Discourses 22.84Linked Discourses 22.849. Senior Mendicants9. Senior Mendicants

With TissaWith TissaAt Sāvatthī.At Sāvatthī.Now at that time Venerable Tissa—the Buddha’s cousin on his father’s side—informed several mendicants:Now at that time Venerable Tissa—the Buddha’s cousin on his father’s side—informed several mendicants:

“Reverends, my body feels like it’s drugged. I’m disorientated, the teachings don’t spring to mind, and dullness and drowsiness fill my mind. I lead the spiritual life dissatisfied, and have doubts about the teachings.”“Reverends, my body feels like it’s drugged. I’m disorientated, the teachings don’t spring to mind, and dullness and drowsiness fill my mind. I lead the spiritual life dissatisfied, and have doubts about the teachings.”Then several mendicants went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened.Then several mendicants went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened.So the Buddha addressed one of the monks,So the Buddha addressed one of the monks,

“Please, monk, in my name tell the mendicant Tissa that the Teacher summons him.”“Please, monk, in my name tell the mendicant Tissa that the Teacher summons him.”“Yes, sir,” that monk replied. He went to Tissa and said to him,“Yes, sir,” that monk replied. He went to Tissa and said to him,“Reverend Tissa, the Teacher summons you.”“Reverend Tissa, the Teacher summons you.”

“Yes, reverend,” Tissa replied. He went to the Buddha, bowed, and sat down to one side. The Buddha said to him:“Yes, reverend,” Tissa replied. He went to the Buddha, bowed, and sat down to one side. The Buddha said to him:“Is it really true, Tissa, that you informed several mendicants that“Is it really true, Tissa, that you informed several mendicants thatyour body feels like it’s drugged … and you have doubts about the teachings?”your body feels like it’s drugged … and you have doubts about the teachings?”

“Yes, sir.”“Yes, sir.”“What do you think, Tissa?“What do you think, Tissa?If you’re not rid of greed, desire, fondness, thirst, passion, and craving for form, when that form decays and perishes, will it give rise to sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress?”If you’re not rid of greed, desire, fondness, thirst, passion, and craving for form, when that form decays and perishes, will it give rise to sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress?”

“Yes, sir.”“Yes, sir.”“Good, good, Tissa!“Good, good, Tissa!That’s how it is, Tissa,That’s how it is, Tissa,

when you’re not rid of greed for form.when you’re not rid of greed for form.If you’re not rid of greed for feeling …If you’re not rid of greed for feeling …perception …perception …

choices …choices …consciousness, when that consciousness decays and perishes, will it give rise to sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress?”consciousness, when that consciousness decays and perishes, will it give rise to sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress?”“Yes, sir.”“Yes, sir.”

“Good, good, Tissa!“Good, good, Tissa!That’s how it is, Tissa,That’s how it is, Tissa,when you’re not rid of greed for consciousness.when you’re not rid of greed for consciousness.

What do you think, Tissa?What do you think, Tissa?If you are rid of greed, desire, fondness, thirst, passion, and craving for form, when that form decays and perishes, will it give rise to sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress?”If you are rid of greed, desire, fondness, thirst, passion, and craving for form, when that form decays and perishes, will it give rise to sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress?”“No, sir.”“No, sir.”

“Good, good, Tissa!“Good, good, Tissa!That’s how it is, Tissa,That’s how it is, Tissa,when you are rid of greed for form …when you are rid of greed for form …

feeling …feeling …perception …perception …choices …choices …

consciousness.consciousness.What do you think, Tissa?What do you think, Tissa?Is form permanent or impermanent?”Is form permanent or impermanent?”

“Impermanent, sir.”“Impermanent, sir.”“Is feeling …“Is feeling …perception …perception …

choices …choices …consciousness permanent or impermanent?”consciousness permanent or impermanent?”“Impermanent, sir.”“Impermanent, sir.”

“So you should truly see …“So you should truly see …Seeing this …Seeing this …They understand: ‘… there is nothing further for this place.’They understand: ‘… there is nothing further for this place.’

Suppose, Tissa, there were two individuals.Suppose, Tissa, there were two individuals.One was not skilled in the path, the other was.One was not skilled in the path, the other was.The one not skilled in the path would question the one skilled in the path,The one not skilled in the path would question the one skilled in the path,

who would reply:who would reply:‘Come, my man, this is the path.‘Come, my man, this is the path.Go down it an hour,Go down it an hour,

and you’ll see a fork in the road. Ignore the left, and take the right-hand path.and you’ll see a fork in the road. Ignore the left, and take the right-hand path.Go an hour more,Go an hour more,and you’ll see a dense forest grove.and you’ll see a dense forest grove.

Go an hour more,Go an hour more,and you’ll see an expanse of low-lying marshes.and you’ll see an expanse of low-lying marshes.Go an hour more,Go an hour more,

and you’ll see a large, steep cliff.and you’ll see a large, steep cliff.Go an hour more,Go an hour more,and you’ll see level, cleared parkland.’and you’ll see level, cleared parkland.’

I’ve made up this simile to make a point.I’ve made up this simile to make a point.And this is what it means.And this is what it means.‘A person who is not skilled in the path’ is a term for an ordinary unlearned person.‘A person who is not skilled in the path’ is a term for an ordinary unlearned person.

‘A person who is skilled in the path’ is a term for the Realized One, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha.‘A person who is skilled in the path’ is a term for the Realized One, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha.‘A fork in the road’ is a term for doubt.‘A fork in the road’ is a term for doubt.‘The left-hand path’ is a term for the wrong eightfold path, that is,‘The left-hand path’ is a term for the wrong eightfold path, that is,

wrong view … wrong immersion.wrong view … wrong immersion.‘The right-hand path’ is a term for the noble eightfold path, that is,‘The right-hand path’ is a term for the noble eightfold path, that is,right view … right immersion.right view … right immersion.

‘A dense forest grove’ is a term for ignorance.‘A dense forest grove’ is a term for ignorance.‘An expanse of low-lying marshes’ is a term for sensual pleasures.‘An expanse of low-lying marshes’ is a term for sensual pleasures.‘A large, steep cliff’ is a term for anger and distress.‘A large, steep cliff’ is a term for anger and distress.

‘Level, cleared parkland’ is a term for extinguishment.‘Level, cleared parkland’ is a term for extinguishment.Rejoice, Tissa, rejoice!Rejoice, Tissa, rejoice!I am here with advice, with support, with instruction.”I am here with advice, with support, with instruction.”

That is what the Buddha said.That is what the Buddha said.Satisfied, Venerable Tissa approved what the Buddha said.Satisfied, Venerable Tissa approved what the Buddha said.