经集（Sujato 英译）第 64 阅读页 · SNP4.11 · Quarrels and Disputes

Anthology of Discourses 4.11Anthology of Discourses 4.11Quarrels and DisputesQuarrels and Disputes

“Where do quarrels and disputes come from?“Where do quarrels and disputes come from?And lamentation and sorrow, and stinginess?And lamentation and sorrow, and stinginess?What of conceit and arrogance, and slander too—What of conceit and arrogance, and slander too—

tell me please, where do they come from?”tell me please, where do they come from?”“Quarrels and disputes come from what we hold dear,“Quarrels and disputes come from what we hold dear,as do lamentation and sorrow, stinginess,as do lamentation and sorrow, stinginess,

conceit and arrogance.conceit and arrogance.Quarrels and disputes are linked to stinginess,Quarrels and disputes are linked to stinginess,and when disputes have arisen there is slander.”and when disputes have arisen there is slander.”

“So where do things held dear in the world spring from?“So where do things held dear in the world spring from?And the lusts that are loose in the world?And the lusts that are loose in the world?Where spring the hopes and aimsWhere spring the hopes and aims

a man has for lives to come?”a man has for lives to come?”“What we hold dear in the world spring from desire,“What we hold dear in the world spring from desire,as do the lusts that are loose in the world.as do the lusts that are loose in the world.

From there spring the hopes and aimsFrom there spring the hopes and aimsa man has for lives to come.”a man has for lives to come.”“So where does desire in the world spring from?“So where does desire in the world spring from?

And evaluations, too, where do they come from?And evaluations, too, where do they come from?And anger, lies, and indecision,And anger, lies, and indecision,and other things spoken of by the Ascetic?”and other things spoken of by the Ascetic?”

“What they call pleasure and pain in the world—“What they call pleasure and pain in the world—based on that, desire comes about.based on that, desire comes about.Seeing the manifestation and vanishing of forms,Seeing the manifestation and vanishing of forms,

a personage makes evaluations in the world.a personage makes evaluations in the world.Anger, lies, and indecision—Anger, lies, and indecision—these things are, too, when that pair is present.these things are, too, when that pair is present.

One who is indecisive should train in the path of knowledge;One who is indecisive should train in the path of knowledge;it is from knowledge that the Ascetic speaks of these things.”it is from knowledge that the Ascetic speaks of these things.”“Where do pleasure and pain spring from?“Where do pleasure and pain spring from?

When what is absent do these things not occur?When what is absent do these things not occur?And also, on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—And also, on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—tell me where they spring from.”tell me where they spring from.”

“Pleasure and pain spring from contact;“Pleasure and pain spring from contact;when contact is absent they do not occur.when contact is absent they do not occur.And on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—And on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—

I tell you they spring from there.”I tell you they spring from there.”“So where does contact in the world spring from?“So where does contact in the world spring from?And possessions, too, where do they come from?And possessions, too, where do they come from?

When what is absent is there no possessiveness?When what is absent is there no possessiveness?When what vanishes do contacts not strike?”When what vanishes do contacts not strike?”“Name and form cause contact;“Name and form cause contact;

possessions spring from wishing;possessions spring from wishing;when wishing is absent there is no possessiveness;when wishing is absent there is no possessiveness;when form vanishes, contacts don’t strike.”when form vanishes, contacts don’t strike.”

“Form vanishes for one proceeding how?“Form vanishes for one proceeding how?And how do happiness and suffering vanish?And how do happiness and suffering vanish?Tell me how they vanish;Tell me how they vanish;

I think we ought to know these things.”I think we ought to know these things.”“Without normal perception or distorted perception;“Without normal perception or distorted perception;not lacking perception, nor perceiving what has vanished.not lacking perception, nor perceiving what has vanished.

Form vanishes for one proceeding thus;Form vanishes for one proceeding thus;for judgments due to proliferation spring from perception.”for judgments due to proliferation spring from perception.”“Whatever I asked you have explained to me.“Whatever I asked you have explained to me.

I ask you once more, please tell me this:I ask you once more, please tell me this:Do some astute folk here say that this is the highest extentDo some astute folk here say that this is the highest extentof purity of the spirit?of purity of the spirit?

Or do they say it is something else?”Or do they say it is something else?”“Some astute folk do say that this is the highest extent“Some astute folk do say that this is the highest extentof purity of the spirit.of purity of the spirit.

But some of them, claiming to be experts,But some of them, claiming to be experts,speak of an occasion when there is no residue.speak of an occasion when there is no residue.Knowing that these states are dependent,Knowing that these states are dependent,

and knowing what they depend on, the inquiring sage,and knowing what they depend on, the inquiring sage,having understood, is freed, and enters no dispute.having understood, is freed, and enters no dispute.The attentive do not proceed to life after life.”The attentive do not proceed to life after life.”