经集（Sujato 英译）第 62 阅读页 · SNP4.9 · With Māgaṇḍiya

Anthology of Discourses 4.9Anthology of Discourses 4.9With MāgaṇḍiyaWith Māgaṇḍiya

“Even when I saw the sirens Craving, Malignancy, and Lust,“Even when I saw the sirens Craving, Malignancy, and Lust,I had no desire for sex.I had no desire for sex.What is this body full of piss and shit?What is this body full of piss and shit?

I wouldn’t even want to touch it with my foot.”I wouldn’t even want to touch it with my foot.”“If you do not want a gem such as this,“If you do not want a gem such as this,a lady desired by many lords of men,a lady desired by many lords of men,

then what manner of theory, precepts and vows, livelihood,then what manner of theory, precepts and vows, livelihood,and rebirth in a new life do you assert?”and rebirth in a new life do you assert?”“After judging among the teachings,”“After judging among the teachings,”

said the Buddha to Māgaṇḍiya,said the Buddha to Māgaṇḍiya,“none have been adopted thinking, ‘I assert this.’“none have been adopted thinking, ‘I assert this.’Seeing views without adopting any,Seeing views without adopting any,

searching, I saw inner peace.”searching, I saw inner peace.”“O sage, you speak of judgments you have formed,”“O sage, you speak of judgments you have formed,”said Māgaṇḍiya,said Māgaṇḍiya,

“without having adopted any of those views.“without having adopted any of those views.As to that matter of ‘inner peace’—As to that matter of ‘inner peace’—how is that described by the attentive?”how is that described by the attentive?”

“Purity is spoken of not as due to view,”“Purity is spoken of not as due to view,”said the Buddha to Māgaṇḍiya,said the Buddha to Māgaṇḍiya,“learning, knowledge, or precepts and vows;“learning, knowledge, or precepts and vows;

nor without view, learning,nor without view, learning,knowledge, or precepts and vows.knowledge, or precepts and vows.Having relinquished these, not adopting them,Having relinquished these, not adopting them,

peaceful, independent, one would not pray for another life.”peaceful, independent, one would not pray for another life.”“It seems purity is spoken of not as due to view,”“It seems purity is spoken of not as due to view,”said Māgaṇḍiya,said Māgaṇḍiya,

“learning, knowledge, or precepts and vows;“learning, knowledge, or precepts and vows;nor without view, learning,nor without view, learning,knowledge, or precepts and vows.knowledge, or precepts and vows.

If so, I think this teaching is sheer folly;If so, I think this teaching is sheer folly;some believe that purity comes from view.”some believe that purity comes from view.”“Continuing to question while relying on a view,”“Continuing to question while relying on a view,”

said the Buddha to Māgaṇḍiya,said the Buddha to Māgaṇḍiya,“you’ve become confused by all you’ve adopted.“you’ve become confused by all you’ve adopted.From this you’ve not glimpsed the slightest idea,From this you’ve not glimpsed the slightest idea,

which is why you consider the teaching folly.which is why you consider the teaching folly.If you think that ‘I’m equal,If you think that ‘I’m equal,special, or worse’, you’ll dispute about that.special, or worse’, you’ll dispute about that.

Not wavering due to the three discriminations,Not wavering due to the three discriminations,they have no thought, ‘I’m equal or special’.they have no thought, ‘I’m equal or special’.Why would that brahmin say, ‘It’s true’,Why would that brahmin say, ‘It’s true’,

or with whom would they dispute, ‘It’s false’?or with whom would they dispute, ‘It’s false’?There is no equal or unequal in them,There is no equal or unequal in them,so who would they take on in debate?so who would they take on in debate?

After leaving their bastion to migrate without abode,After leaving their bastion to migrate without abode,a sage doesn’t get close to anyone in town.a sage doesn’t get close to anyone in town.Rid of sensual pleasures, not expecting,Rid of sensual pleasures, not expecting,

they wouldn’t get in arguments with people.they wouldn’t get in arguments with people.A spiritual giant would not take up for debateA spiritual giant would not take up for debatethe things in the world from which they live secluded.the things in the world from which they live secluded.

As a prickly lotus born in the waterAs a prickly lotus born in the wateris unsullied by water and mud,is unsullied by water and mud,so the greedless sage, proponent of peace,so the greedless sage, proponent of peace,

is unsmeared by sensuality and the world.is unsmeared by sensuality and the world.A knowledge master does not become conceitedA knowledge master does not become conceiteddue to view or thought, for they are not determined by that.due to view or thought, for they are not determined by that.

They’ve no need for deeds or learning,They’ve no need for deeds or learning,they’re not indoctrinated in dogmas.they’re not indoctrinated in dogmas.There are no ties for one detached from ideas;There are no ties for one detached from ideas;

there are no delusions for one freed by wisdom.there are no delusions for one freed by wisdom.But those who have adopted ideas and viewsBut those who have adopted ideas and viewswander the world causing conflict.”wander the world causing conflict.”