中部第 75 经（Sujato 英译）第 2 阅读页 · With Māgaṇḍiya · 2/3

Because there is a satisfaction that is apart from sensual pleasures and unskillful qualities,Because there is a satisfaction that is apart from sensual pleasures and unskillful qualities,which even equals heavenly pleasure.which even equals heavenly pleasure.Enjoying that satisfaction, I don’t envy what is inferior, nor do I hope to enjoy it.Enjoying that satisfaction, I don’t envy what is inferior, nor do I hope to enjoy it.

Suppose there was a person affected by leprosy, with sores and blisters on their limbs. Being devoured by worms, scratching with their nails at the opening of their wounds, they’d cauterize their body over a pit of glowing coals.Suppose there was a person affected by leprosy, with sores and blisters on their limbs. Being devoured by worms, scratching with their nails at the opening of their wounds, they’d cauterize their body over a pit of glowing coals.Their friends and colleagues, relatives and kin would get a surgeon to treat them.Their friends and colleagues, relatives and kin would get a surgeon to treat them.The surgeon would make medicine for them,The surgeon would make medicine for them,

and by using that they’d be cured of leprosy. They’d be healthy, happy, autonomous, master of themselves, able to go where they wanted.and by using that they’d be cured of leprosy. They’d be healthy, happy, autonomous, master of themselves, able to go where they wanted.Two strong men would grab them by the arms and drag them toward the pit of glowing coals.Two strong men would grab them by the arms and drag them toward the pit of glowing coals.What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?

Wouldn’t that person writhe and struggle to and fro?”Wouldn’t that person writhe and struggle to and fro?”“Yes, worthy Gotama.“Yes, worthy Gotama.Why is that?Why is that?

Because that fire is really painful to touch, fiercely burning and scorching.”Because that fire is really painful to touch, fiercely burning and scorching.”“What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?“What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?Is it only now that the fire is really painful to touch, fiercely burning and scorching, or was it painful previously as well?”Is it only now that the fire is really painful to touch, fiercely burning and scorching, or was it painful previously as well?”

“That fire is painful now and it was also painful previously.“That fire is painful now and it was also painful previously.That person was affected by leprosy, with sores and blisters on their limbs. Being devoured by worms, scratching with their nails at the opening of their wounds, their sense faculties were impaired. So even though the fire was actually painful to touch, they had a distorted perception that it was pleasant.”That person was affected by leprosy, with sores and blisters on their limbs. Being devoured by worms, scratching with their nails at the opening of their wounds, their sense faculties were impaired. So even though the fire was actually painful to touch, they had a distorted perception that it was pleasant.”

“In the same way, sensual pleasures of the past, future, and present are painful to touch, fiercely burning and scorching.“In the same way, sensual pleasures of the past, future, and present are painful to touch, fiercely burning and scorching.These sentient beings who are not free from sensual pleasures—being consumed by craving for sensual pleasures, burning with passion for sensual pleasures—have impaired sense faculties. So even though sensual pleasures are actually painful to touch, they have a distorted perception that they are pleasant.These sentient beings who are not free from sensual pleasures—being consumed by craving for sensual pleasures, burning with passion for sensual pleasures—have impaired sense faculties. So even though sensual pleasures are actually painful to touch, they have a distorted perception that they are pleasant.

Suppose there was a person affected by leprosy, with sores and blisters on their limbs. Being devoured by worms, scratching with their nails at the opening of their wounds, they’re cauterizing their body over a pit of glowing coals.Suppose there was a person affected by leprosy, with sores and blisters on their limbs. Being devoured by worms, scratching with their nails at the opening of their wounds, they’re cauterizing their body over a pit of glowing coals.The more they scratch their wounds and cauterize their body, the more their wounds become foul, stinking, and infected. But still, they derive a degree of pleasure and gratification from the itchiness of their wounds.The more they scratch their wounds and cauterize their body, the more their wounds become foul, stinking, and infected. But still, they derive a degree of pleasure and gratification from the itchiness of their wounds.

In the same way, I see other sentient beings who are not free from sensual pleasures being consumed by craving for sensual pleasures, burning with passion for sensual pleasures, indulging in sensual pleasures.In the same way, I see other sentient beings who are not free from sensual pleasures being consumed by craving for sensual pleasures, burning with passion for sensual pleasures, indulging in sensual pleasures.The more they indulge in sensual pleasures, the more their craving for sensual pleasures grows, and the more they burn with passion for sensual pleasures. But still, they derive a degree of pleasure and gratification from the five kinds of sensual stimulation.The more they indulge in sensual pleasures, the more their craving for sensual pleasures grows, and the more they burn with passion for sensual pleasures. But still, they derive a degree of pleasure and gratification from the five kinds of sensual stimulation.

What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?Have you seen or heard of a king or a royal minister of the past, future, or present, amusing themselves supplied and provided with the five kinds of sensual stimulation, who—without giving up craving for sensual pleasures and dispelling passion for sensual pleasures—lives rid of thirst, their mind settled internally?”Have you seen or heard of a king or a royal minister of the past, future, or present, amusing themselves supplied and provided with the five kinds of sensual stimulation, who—without giving up craving for sensual pleasures and dispelling passion for sensual pleasures—lives rid of thirst, their mind settled internally?”“No, worthy Gotama.”“No, worthy Gotama.”

“Good, Māgaṇḍiya.“Good, Māgaṇḍiya.Neither have I.Neither have I.On the contrary, all the ascetics or brahmins of the past, future, or present who live rid of thirst, their minds settled internally, do so after truly understanding the origin, ending, gratification, drawback, and escape of sensual pleasures, and after giving up craving and dispelling passion for sensual pleasures.”On the contrary, all the ascetics or brahmins of the past, future, or present who live rid of thirst, their minds settled internally, do so after truly understanding the origin, ending, gratification, drawback, and escape of sensual pleasures, and after giving up craving and dispelling passion for sensual pleasures.”

Then on that occasion the Buddha expressed this heartfelt sentiment:Then on that occasion the Buddha expressed this heartfelt sentiment:“Health is the ultimate blessing;“Health is the ultimate blessing;extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.

Of paths, the ultimate is eightfold—Of paths, the ultimate is eightfold—it’s safe, and leads to freedom from death.”it’s safe, and leads to freedom from death.”When he said this, Māgaṇḍiya said to him,When he said this, Māgaṇḍiya said to him,

“It’s incredible, worthy Gotama, it’s amazing!“It’s incredible, worthy Gotama, it’s amazing!How well said this was by the worthy Gotama!How well said this was by the worthy Gotama!‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’

I’ve also heard that wanderers of the past, the tutors of tutors, said:I’ve also heard that wanderers of the past, the tutors of tutors, said:‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’And it agrees, worthy Gotama.”And it agrees, worthy Gotama.”

“But Māgaṇḍiya, when you heard that wanderers of the past said this,“But Māgaṇḍiya, when you heard that wanderers of the past said this,what is that health? And what is that extinguishment?”what is that health? And what is that extinguishment?”When he said this, Māgaṇḍiya stroked his own limbs with his hands, saying:When he said this, Māgaṇḍiya stroked his own limbs with his hands, saying:

“This is that health, worthy Gotama, this is that extinguishment!“This is that health, worthy Gotama, this is that extinguishment!For I am now healthy and happy, and have no afflictions.”For I am now healthy and happy, and have no afflictions.”“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth.“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth.

They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun.They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun.They might hear a sighted person saying:They might hear a sighted person saying:‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’

They’d go in search of white cloth.They’d go in search of white cloth.But someone would cheat them with a dirty, soiled garment, saying:But someone would cheat them with a dirty, soiled garment, saying:‘My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’‘My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’

They’d take it and put it on, expressing their gladness:They’d take it and put it on, expressing their gladness:‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?

Did that person blind from birth do this knowing and seeing,Did that person blind from birth do this knowing and seeing,or out of faith in the sighted person?”or out of faith in the sighted person?”“They did so not knowing or seeing,“They did so not knowing or seeing,

but out of faith in the sighted person.”but out of faith in the sighted person.”“In the same way, the wanderers of other religions are blind and sightless. Not knowing health and not seeing extinguishment, they still recite this verse:“In the same way, the wanderers of other religions are blind and sightless. Not knowing health and not seeing extinguishment, they still recite this verse:‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’

For this verse was recited by the perfected ones, fully awakened Buddhas of the past:For this verse was recited by the perfected ones, fully awakened Buddhas of the past:‘Health is the ultimate blessing;‘Health is the ultimate blessing;extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.

Of paths, the ultimate is eightfold—Of paths, the ultimate is eightfold—it’s safe, and leads to freedom from death.’it’s safe, and leads to freedom from death.’These days it has gradually become a verse used by ordinary people.These days it has gradually become a verse used by ordinary people.

But Māgaṇḍiya, this body is a disease, a boil, a dart, a gloom, an affliction. Yet you say of this body:But Māgaṇḍiya, this body is a disease, a boil, a dart, a gloom, an affliction. Yet you say of this body:‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment!’‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment!’Māgaṇḍiya, you don’t have the noble vision by which you might know health and see extinguishment.”Māgaṇḍiya, you don’t have the noble vision by which you might know health and see extinguishment.”

“I am quite confident that the worthy Gotama“I am quite confident that the worthy Gotamais capable of teaching me so that I can know health and see extinguishment.”is capable of teaching me so that I can know health and see extinguishment.”“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth.“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth.

They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun.They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun.Their friends and colleagues, relatives and kin would get a surgeon to treat them.Their friends and colleagues, relatives and kin would get a surgeon to treat them.The surgeon would make medicine for them,The surgeon would make medicine for them,

but when they used it their eyes were not cured and they still could not see clearly.but when they used it their eyes were not cured and they still could not see clearly.What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?Wouldn’t that doctor just get weary and frustrated?”Wouldn’t that doctor just get weary and frustrated?”

“Yes, worthy Gotama.”“Yes, worthy Gotama.”“In the same way, suppose I were to teach you the Dhamma, saying:“In the same way, suppose I were to teach you the Dhamma, saying:‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment.’ But you might not know health or see extinguishment,‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment.’ But you might not know health or see extinguishment,

which would be wearying and troublesome for me.”which would be wearying and troublesome for me.”“I am quite confident that the worthy Gotama“I am quite confident that the worthy Gotamais capable of teaching me so that I can know health and see extinguishment.”is capable of teaching me so that I can know health and see extinguishment.”

“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth.“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth.They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun.They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun.They might hear a sighted person saying:They might hear a sighted person saying:

‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’They’d go in search of white cloth.They’d go in search of white cloth.But someone would cheat them with a dirty, soiled garment, saying:But someone would cheat them with a dirty, soiled garment, saying:

‘My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’‘My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’They’d take it and put it on.They’d take it and put it on.Their friends and colleagues, relatives and kin would get a surgeon to treat them.Their friends and colleagues, relatives and kin would get a surgeon to treat them.

The surgeon would make medicine for them:The surgeon would make medicine for them:emetics, purgatives, ointment, counter-ointment, or nasal treatment.emetics, purgatives, ointment, counter-ointment, or nasal treatment.And when they used it their eyes would be cured so that they could see clearly.And when they used it their eyes would be cured so that they could see clearly.

As soon as their eyes were cured they’d lose all desire for that dirty, soiled garment.As soon as their eyes were cured they’d lose all desire for that dirty, soiled garment.Then they would consider that person to be no friend, but an enemy, and might even think of murdering them:Then they would consider that person to be no friend, but an enemy, and might even think of murdering them:‘For such a long time I’ve been cheated, tricked, and deceived by that person with this dirty, soiled garment when he said,‘For such a long time I’ve been cheated, tricked, and deceived by that person with this dirty, soiled garment when he said,

“My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.”’“My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.”’In the same way, Māgaṇḍiya, suppose I were to teach you the Dhamma, saying:In the same way, Māgaṇḍiya, suppose I were to teach you the Dhamma, saying:‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment.’‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment.’

You might know health and see extinguishment.You might know health and see extinguishment.And as soon as your vision arises you might give up desire for the five grasping aggregates.And as soon as your vision arises you might give up desire for the five grasping aggregates.And you might even think:And you might even think:

‘For such a long time I’ve been cheated, tricked, and deceived by this mind.‘For such a long time I’ve been cheated, tricked, and deceived by this mind.For what I have been grasping is only form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.For what I have been grasping is only form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.My grasping is a requirement for continued existence. Continued existence is a requirement for rebirth. Rebirth is a requirement for old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress to come to be.My grasping is a requirement for continued existence. Continued existence is a requirement for rebirth. Rebirth is a requirement for old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress to come to be.

That is how this entire mass of suffering originates.’”That is how this entire mass of suffering originates.’”“I am quite confident that the worthy Gotama“I am quite confident that the worthy Gotamais capable of teaching me so that I can rise from this seat cured of blindness.”is capable of teaching me so that I can rise from this seat cured of blindness.”

“Well then, Māgaṇḍiya, you should associate with true persons.“Well then, Māgaṇḍiya, you should associate with true persons.When you associate with true persons, you will hear the true teaching.When you associate with true persons, you will hear the true teaching.When you hear the true teaching, you’ll practice in line with the teaching.When you hear the true teaching, you’ll practice in line with the teaching.

When you practice in line with the teaching, you’ll know and see for yourself:When you practice in line with the teaching, you’ll know and see for yourself:‘These are diseases, boils, and darts.‘These are diseases, boils, and darts.And here is where diseases, boils, and darts cease without remainder.’And here is where diseases, boils, and darts cease without remainder.’

When my grasping ceases, continued existence ceases. When continued existence ceases, rebirth ceases. When rebirth ceases, old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress cease.When my grasping ceases, continued existence ceases. When continued existence ceases, rebirth ceases. When rebirth ceases, old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress cease.