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Long Discourses 5With Kūṭadanta1. The Brahmins and Householders of Khāṇumata

So I have heard.At one time the Buddha was wandering in the land of the Magadhans together with a large Saṅgha of five hundred mendicants when he arrived at a village of the Magadhan brahmins named Khāṇumata.There he stayed nearby at Ambalaṭṭhikā.

Now at that time the brahmin Kūṭadanta was living in Khāṇumata. It was a crown property given by King Seniya Bimbisāra of Magadha, teeming with living creatures, full of hay, wood, water, and grain, a royal park endowed to a brahmin.Now at that time Kūṭadanta had prepared a great sacrifice.Bulls, bullocks, heifers, goats and rams—seven hundred of each—had been led to the post for the sacrifice.

The brahmins and householders of Khāṇumata heard:“It seems the ascetic Gotama—a Sakyan, gone forth from a Sakyan family—has arrived at Khāṇumata and is staying at Ambalaṭṭhikā.He has this good reputation:

‘That Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.’He has realized with his own insight this world—with its gods, Māras, and divinities, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, gods and humans—and he makes it known to others.

He teaches Dhamma that’s good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, meaningful and well-phrased. And he reveals a spiritual practice that’s entirely full and pure.It’s good to see such perfected ones.”Then, exiting Khāṇumata, they formed into companies and headed to Ambalaṭṭhikā.

Now at that time the brahmin Kūṭadanta had retired to the upper floor of his stilt longhouse for his midday nap.He saw the brahmins and householders heading for Ambalaṭṭhikā,and addressed his butler,

“My butler, why are the brahmins and householders headed for Ambalaṭṭhikā?”“The ascetic Gotama has arrived at Khāṇumata and is staying at Ambalaṭṭhikā.He has this good reputation:

‘That Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.’They’re going to see that worthy Gotama.”Then Kūṭadanta thought,

“I’ve heard thatthe ascetic Gotama knows how to accomplish the sacrifice with three modes and sixteen accessories.I don’t know about that,

but I wish to perform a great sacrifice.Why don’t I ask him how to accomplish the sacrifice with three modes and sixteen accessories?”Then Kūṭadanta addressed his butler,

“Well then, go to the brahmins and householders and say to them:‘Sirs, the brahmin Kūṭadanta asksyou to wait, as he will also go to see the ascetic Gotama.’”

“Yes, worthy sir,” replied the butler, and did as he was asked.

2. The Qualities of Kūṭadanta

Now at that time several hundred brahmins were residing in Khāṇumatathinking to participate in Kūṭadanta’s sacrifice.They heard that

Kūṭadanta was going to see the ascetic Gotama.They approached Kūṭadanta and said to him:“Is it really true that you are going to see the ascetic Gotama?”

“Yes, worthy sir, it is true.”“Please don’t!It’s not appropriate for you to go to see the ascetic Gotama.

For if you do so, your reputation will diminish and his will increase.For this reason it’s not appropriate for you to go to see the ascetic Gotama;it’s appropriate that he comes to see you.

You are well born on both your mother’s and father’s side, stemming from a clean vessel, with irrefutable and impeccable genealogy back to the seventh paternal generation.For this reason it’s not appropriate for you to go to see the ascetic Gotama;it’s appropriate that he comes to see you.

You’re rich, affluent, and wealthy, with lots of property and assets, and lots of money and grain …You recite and remember the hymns, and have mastered the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies and ritual performance, their phonology and word classification, and the testaments as fifth. You know them word-by-word, and their grammar. You are well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man. …

You are attractive, good-looking, lovely, of surpassing beauty. You have divine looks and lustre, remarkable to behold. …You are ethical, mature in ethical conduct. …You’re a good speaker who enunciates well, with a polished, clear, and articulate voice that expresses the meaning. …

You’re the tutor of tutors for many, and teach three hundred young students to recite the hymns. Many students come from various districts and countries for the sake of the hymns, wishing to learn the hymns. …You’re old, elderly and senior, advanced in years, and have reached the final stage of life.The ascetic Gotama is young, and has newly gone forth. …

You’re honored, respected, revered, venerated, and esteemed by King Bimbisāra of Magadha …and the brahmin Pokkharasāti. …You live in Khāṇumata, a crown property given by King Seniya Bimbisāra of Magadha, teeming with living creatures, full of hay, wood, water, and grain, a royal park endowed to a brahmin.

For this reason it’s not appropriate for you to go to see the ascetic Gotama;it’s appropriate that he comes to see you.”

3. The Qualities of the Buddha

When they had spoken, Kūṭadanta said to those brahmins:“Well then, gentlemen, listen to why it’s appropriate for me to go to see the ascetic Gotama,and it’s not appropriate for him to come to see me.

He is well born on both his mother’s and father’s side, stemming from a clean vessel, with irrefutable and impeccable genealogy back to the seventh paternal generation.For this reason it’s not appropriate for the ascetic Gotama to come to see me;rather, it’s appropriate for me to go to see him.

When he went forth he abandoned a large family circle. …When he went forth he abandoned abundant gold, both coined and uncoined, stored above and below ground. …He went forth from the lay life to homelessness while still a youth, young, with pristine black hair, blessed with youth, in the prime of life. …

Though his mother and father wished otherwise, weeping with tearful faces, he shaved off his hair and beard, dressed in ocher robes, and went forth from the lay life to homelessness. …He is attractive, good-looking, lovely, of surpassing beauty. He has divine looks and lustre, remarkable to behold. …He is ethical, possessing ethical conduct that is noble and skillful. …

He’s a good speaker who enunciates well, with a polished, clear, and articulate voice that expresses the meaning. …He’s a tutor of tutors. …He has ended sensual desire, and is rid of caprice. …

He teaches the efficacy of deeds and action. He doesn’t wish any harm upon the community of brahmins. …He went forth from an eminent family of unbroken aristocratic lineage. …He went forth from a rich, affluent, and wealthy family. …

People come from distant lands and distant countries to question him. …Many thousands of deities have gone for refuge for life to him. …He has this good reputation:

‘That Blessed One is perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.’ …He has the thirty-two marks of a great man. …He is welcoming, congenial, polite, smiling, open, the first to speak. …

He’s honored, respected, revered, venerated, and esteemed by the four assemblies. …Many gods and humans are devoted to him. …While he is residing in a village or town, non-human entities do not harass them. …

He leads an order and a community, and tutors a community, and is said to be the best of the various religious founders. He didn’t come by his fame in the same ways as those other ascetics and brahmins.Rather, he came by his fame due to his supreme knowledge and conduct. …King Seniya Bimbisāra of Magadha and his wives and children have gone for refuge for life to the ascetic Gotama. …

King Pasenadi of Kosala and his wives and children have gone for refuge for life to the ascetic Gotama. …The brahmin Pokkharasāti and his wives and children have gone for refuge for life to the ascetic Gotama. …He’s honored, respected, revered, venerated, and esteemed by King Bimbisāra of Magadha …

King Pasenadi of Kosala …and the brahmin Pokkharasāti.The ascetic Gotama has arrived at Khāṇumata and is staying at Ambalaṭṭhikā.

Any ascetic or brahmin who comes to stay in our village district is our guest,and should be honored and respected as such.For this reason, too, it’s not appropriate for Worthy Gotama to come to see me;

rather, it’s appropriate for me to go to see him.This is the extent of the worthy Gotama’s praise that I have memorized. But his praises are not confined to this,for the praise of the worthy Gotama is limitless.”

When he had spoken, those brahmins said to him,“According to Kūṭadanta’s praises, if the worthy Gotama were staying within a hundred leagues, it’d be worthwhile for a faithful gentleman to go to see him, even if he had to carry his own provisions in a knapsack.”“Well then, gentlemen, let’s all go to see the ascetic Gotama.”

4. The Story of King Mahāvijita’s Sacrifice

Then Kūṭadanta together with a large group of brahmins went to Ambalaṭṭhikā, approached the Buddha, and exchanged greetings with him.When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side.Before sitting down to one side, some of the brahmins and householders of Khāṇumata bowed, some exchanged greetings and polite conversation, some held up their cupped palms toward the Buddha, some announced their name and clan, while some kept silent.

Kūṭadanta said to the Buddha,“Worthy Gotama, I’ve heard thatyou know how to accomplish the sacrifice with three modes and sixteen accessories.

I don’t know about that,but I wish to perform a great sacrifice.

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