中部第 79 经（Sujato 英译）第 2 阅读页 · The Shorter Discourse With Sakuludāyī · 2/2

On an occasion when someone refrains from killing living creatures, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”On an occasion when someone refrains from killing living creatures, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”“It has both pleasure and pain.”“It has both pleasure and pain.”“What do you think, Udāyī?“What do you think, Udāyī?

On an occasion when someone refrains from stealing …On an occasion when someone refrains from stealing …sexual misconduct …sexual misconduct …lying, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”lying, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”

“It has both pleasure and pain.”“It has both pleasure and pain.”“What do you think, Udāyī?“What do you think, Udāyī?On an occasion when someone proceeds having undertaken some kind of mortification, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”On an occasion when someone proceeds having undertaken some kind of mortification, is their self absolutely happy at that time, or does it have both pleasure and pain?”

“It has both pleasure and pain.”“It has both pleasure and pain.”“What do you think, Udāyī?“What do you think, Udāyī?Is an absolutely happy world realized by relying on a practice of mixed pleasure and pain?”Is an absolutely happy world realized by relying on a practice of mixed pleasure and pain?”

“The Blessed One has cut short the discussion! The Holy One has cut short the discussion!”“The Blessed One has cut short the discussion! The Holy One has cut short the discussion!”“But Udāyī, why do you say this?”“But Udāyī, why do you say this?”“Sir, it says this in our own denomination:“Sir, it says this in our own denomination:

‘There is a world of absolute happiness. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.’‘There is a world of absolute happiness. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.’But when pursued, pressed, and grilled on our own denomination, we turned out to be vacuous, hollow, and mistaken.But when pursued, pressed, and grilled on our own denomination, we turned out to be vacuous, hollow, and mistaken.But sir, is there a world of absolute happiness? And is there a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”But sir, is there a world of absolute happiness? And is there a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”

“There is a world of absolute happiness, Udāyī. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”“There is a world of absolute happiness, Udāyī. And there is a grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”“Well sir, what is that grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”“Well sir, what is that grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness?”“It’s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption.“It’s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption.

As the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, they enter and remain in the second absorption.As the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, they enter and remain in the second absorption.With the fading away of rapture, they enter and remain in the third absorption.With the fading away of rapture, they enter and remain in the third absorption.This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”

“Sir, that’s not the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness. At that point an absolutely happy world has already been realized.”“Sir, that’s not the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness. At that point an absolutely happy world has already been realized.”“No, Udāyī, at that point an absolutely happy world has not been realized.“No, Udāyī, at that point an absolutely happy world has not been realized.This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”This is the grounded practice for realizing a world of absolute happiness.”

When he said this, Sakuludāyī’s assembly made an uproar, a colossal racket,When he said this, Sakuludāyī’s assembly made an uproar, a colossal racket,“In that case, we are lost, together with our denomination! We are lost, together with our denomination!“In that case, we are lost, together with our denomination! We are lost, together with our denomination!We know nothing higher than this!”We know nothing higher than this!”

Then Sakuludāyī, having quieted those wanderers, said to the Buddha,Then Sakuludāyī, having quieted those wanderers, said to the Buddha,“Well sir, at what point is an absolutely happy world realized?”“Well sir, at what point is an absolutely happy world realized?”“It’s when, with the giving up of pleasure and pain and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, a mendicant enters and remains in the fourth absorption.“It’s when, with the giving up of pleasure and pain and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, a mendicant enters and remains in the fourth absorption.

There are deities who have been reborn in a absolutely happy world. That mendicant associates with them, converses, and engages in discussion.There are deities who have been reborn in a absolutely happy world. That mendicant associates with them, converses, and engages in discussion.It’s at this point that a absolutely happy world has been realized.”It’s at this point that a absolutely happy world has been realized.”“Surely the mendicants must lead the spiritual life under the Buddha for the sake of realizing this absolutely happy world?”“Surely the mendicants must lead the spiritual life under the Buddha for the sake of realizing this absolutely happy world?”

“No, Udāyī, the mendicants don’t lead the spiritual life under me for the sake of realizing this absolutely happy world.“No, Udāyī, the mendicants don’t lead the spiritual life under me for the sake of realizing this absolutely happy world.There are other things that are finer, for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.”There are other things that are finer, for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.”“But what are those finer things?”“But what are those finer things?”

“It’s when a Realized One arises in the world, perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed. …“It’s when a Realized One arises in the world, perfected, a fully awakened Buddha, accomplished in knowledge and conduct, holy, knower of the world, supreme guide for those fit for training, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed. …They give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.They give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.Then, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, they enter and remain in the first absorption.Then, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, they enter and remain in the first absorption.

This is one of the finer things for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.This is one of the finer things for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.Furthermore, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, a mendicant enters and remains in the second absorption …Furthermore, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, a mendicant enters and remains in the second absorption …third absorption …third absorption …

fourth absorption.fourth absorption.This too is one of the finer things.This too is one of the finer things.When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward recollection of past lives.When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward recollection of past lives.

They recollect many kinds of past lives. That is: one, two, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand rebirths; many eons of the world contracting, many eons of the world expanding, many eons of the world contracting and expanding. They recollect their many kinds of past lives, with features and details.They recollect many kinds of past lives. That is: one, two, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand rebirths; many eons of the world contracting, many eons of the world expanding, many eons of the world contracting and expanding. They recollect their many kinds of past lives, with features and details.This too is one of the finer things.This too is one of the finer things.

When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward knowledge of the death and rebirth of sentient beings.When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward knowledge of the death and rebirth of sentient beings.With clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, they see sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. They understand how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds.With clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, they see sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. They understand how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds.

This too is one of the finer things.This too is one of the finer things.When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward knowledge of the ending of defilements.When their mind has become immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—they extend it toward knowledge of the ending of defilements.They truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’.They truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’.

They truly understand: ‘These are defilements’ … ‘This is the origin of defilements’ … ‘This is the cessation of defilements’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of defilements’.They truly understand: ‘These are defilements’ … ‘This is the origin of defilements’ … ‘This is the cessation of defilements’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of defilements’.Knowing and seeing like this, their mind is freed from the defilements of sensuality, desire to be reborn, and ignorance.Knowing and seeing like this, their mind is freed from the defilements of sensuality, desire to be reborn, and ignorance.When they’re freed, they know they’re freed.When they’re freed, they know they’re freed.

They understand: ‘Rebirth is ended, the spiritual journey has been completed, what had to be done has been done, there is nothing further for this place.’They understand: ‘Rebirth is ended, the spiritual journey has been completed, what had to be done has been done, there is nothing further for this place.’This too is one of the finer things.This too is one of the finer things.These are the finer things for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.”These are the finer things for the sake of which the mendicants lead the spiritual life under me.”

When he had spoken, Sakuludāyī said to the Buddha,When he had spoken, Sakuludāyī said to the Buddha,“Excellent, sir! Excellent!“Excellent, sir! Excellent!As if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, the Buddha has made the teaching clear in many ways.As if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, the Buddha has made the teaching clear in many ways.

I go for refuge to the Buddha, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha.I go for refuge to the Buddha, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha.Sir, may I receive the going forth, the ordination in the Buddha’s presence?”Sir, may I receive the going forth, the ordination in the Buddha’s presence?”When he said this, Sakuludāyī’s assembly said to him,When he said this, Sakuludāyī’s assembly said to him,

“Worthy Udāyī, don’t lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama.“Worthy Udāyī, don’t lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama.You have been a tutor; don’t live as a pupil.You have been a tutor; don’t live as a pupil.You’ll end up like a water jar that turns into a water ladle.You’ll end up like a water jar that turns into a water ladle.

Worthy Udāyī, don’t lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama.Worthy Udāyī, don’t lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama.You have been a tutor; don’t live as a pupil.”You have been a tutor; don’t live as a pupil.”And that’s how the wanderer Sakuludāyī’s own assembly prevented him from leading the spiritual life under the Buddha.And that’s how the wanderer Sakuludāyī’s own assembly prevented him from leading the spiritual life under the Buddha.