增支部第 9 集（Sujato 英译）第 13 阅读页 · AN9.13 · With Koṭṭhita

Numbered Discourses 9.13Numbered Discourses 9.132. The Lion’s Roar2. The Lion’s Roar

With KoṭṭhitaWith KoṭṭhitaThen Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him.Then Venerable Mahākoṭṭhita went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him.When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Sāriputta:When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Sāriputta:

“Reverend Sāriputta, is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced in this life be experienced by me in lives to come’?”“Reverend Sāriputta, is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced in this life be experienced by me in lives to come’?”“Certainly not, reverend.”“Certainly not, reverend.”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced in lives to come be experienced by me in this life’?”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced in lives to come be experienced by me in this life’?”

“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced as pleasant be experienced by me as painful’?”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced as pleasant be experienced by me as painful’?”“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”

“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced as painful be experienced by me as pleasant’?”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced as painful be experienced by me as pleasant’?”“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced when ripe be experienced by me when unripe’?”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced when ripe be experienced by me when unripe’?”

“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced when unripe be experienced by me when ripe’?”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced when unripe be experienced by me when ripe’?”“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”

“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced a lot be experienced by me a little’?”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced a lot be experienced by me a little’?”“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced a little be experienced by me a lot’?”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced a little be experienced by me a lot’?”

“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced by me be not experienced’?”“Is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds to be experienced by me be not experienced’?”“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”

“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds not to be experienced be experienced’?”“Then is the spiritual life led under the Buddha for this goal: ‘May deeds not to be experienced be experienced’?”“Certainly not.”“Certainly not.”“Reverend Sāriputta, when you were asked whether the spiritual life was lived under the Buddha so that deeds to be experienced in this life are experienced in lives to come, you said, ‘Certainly not’.“Reverend Sāriputta, when you were asked whether the spiritual life was lived under the Buddha so that deeds to be experienced in this life are experienced in lives to come, you said, ‘Certainly not’.

When you were asked whether the spiritual life was lived under the Buddha so that deeds to be experienced in lives to come are experienced in this life …When you were asked whether the spiritual life was lived under the Buddha so that deeds to be experienced in lives to come are experienced in this life …deeds to be experienced as pleasant are experienced as painful …deeds to be experienced as pleasant are experienced as painful …deeds to be experienced as painful are experienced as pleasant …deeds to be experienced as painful are experienced as pleasant …

deeds to be experienced when ripe are experienced when unripe …deeds to be experienced when ripe are experienced when unripe …deeds to be experienced when unripe are experienced when ripe …deeds to be experienced when unripe are experienced when ripe …deeds to be experienced a lot are experienced a little …deeds to be experienced a lot are experienced a little …

deeds to be experienced a little are experienced a lot …deeds to be experienced a little are experienced a lot …deeds to be experienced are not experienced …deeds to be experienced are not experienced …When you were asked whether the spiritual life was lived under the Buddha so that deeds not to be experienced are experienced, you said, ‘Certainly not.’When you were asked whether the spiritual life was lived under the Buddha so that deeds not to be experienced are experienced, you said, ‘Certainly not.’

Then what exactly is the goal of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha?”Then what exactly is the goal of leading the spiritual life under the Buddha?”“Reverend, the spiritual life is lived under the Buddha to know, see, attain, realize, and comprehend that which is unknown, unseen, unattained, unrealized, and uncomprehended.”“Reverend, the spiritual life is lived under the Buddha to know, see, attain, realize, and comprehend that which is unknown, unseen, unattained, unrealized, and uncomprehended.”“But what is the unknown, unseen, unattained, unrealized, and uncomprehended?”“But what is the unknown, unseen, unattained, unrealized, and uncomprehended?”

“‘This is suffering.’ …“‘This is suffering.’ …‘This is the origin of suffering.’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering.’ …‘This is the origin of suffering.’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering.’ …‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering.’ …‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering.’ …

This is the unknown, unseen, unattained, unrealized, and uncomprehended.This is the unknown, unseen, unattained, unrealized, and uncomprehended.The spiritual life is lived under the Buddha to know, see, attain, realize, and comprehend this.”The spiritual life is lived under the Buddha to know, see, attain, realize, and comprehend this.”